Comments on: AUG 24th Met Duo – The EasyWay to Health and Weightloss Special – plus QandA https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/ Hard Science - Simple Solutions Wed, 04 Oct 2023 23:35:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Gabor https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-166 Wed, 04 Oct 2023 23:35:56 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-166 In reply to Paul and Rachel Chandler.

Well said!
Regarding slides, there are some changes coming to the Metabolic Duo project, so stay tuned. We do plan to provide printed/reading materials available for both professionals and enthusiasts. Hopefully one of these will suit your needs as well.

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By: Gabor https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-165 Wed, 04 Oct 2023 23:32:07 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-165 In reply to Jonathan Phillips.

Thanks again. I have everything from Ebringer and will check Dr. Myhill’s stuff.

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By: Gabor https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-164 Wed, 04 Oct 2023 23:30:27 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-164 In reply to Jonathan Phillips.

Thanks Jonathan, some really good papers there. Most AS patients see a profound improvement following the adoption of a low starch, low sugar diet. My personal experience is that the same factors, e.g. the appearance of quick-absorbing carbs, are responsible for the growth of these opportunistic pathogens as in metabolic diseases. So the same mitigating interventions tend to work, too.

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By: Gabor https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-163 Wed, 04 Oct 2023 23:26:19 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-163 In reply to Jonathan Phillips.

It’s not difficult to try and see. I’ve been experimenting a lot for almost a decade, including with dairy, and beyond constipation from high casein intake, very little negative effects are apparent.

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By: Paul and Rachel Chandler https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-161 Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:01:53 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-161 Hi Ivor and Gabor, We really enjoyed this session. It puts a lot of the more technical stuff (which we struggle with partly because of on-going eye surgery but also your tendency to put so much on the screen !!) into context. We’re all human and, as you say, each of us has our particular issues so you can but educate us to ask questions, learn from studies and experiment. I’m also a great admirer of Dr Myhill and many others who have exposed the narrow, corrupt mindset of mainstream medicine when it comes to helping people heal themselves. And, some alternative gurus are not much better in their strident approach to things they’ve identified as problems for some people. None of them have all the answers but striving to eat real, unadulterated food, recognising your triggers and vulnerabilites (such as reactions to and intolerance of certain foods whether it be lectins, oxalates or whatever) but getting outside and having the confidence to seek the truth and figure things out for yourself is a good start. Keep at it and maybe one day you’ll let us have some of the key slides from previous, more technical sessions so we can download them and print off to study in black and white.

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By: Jonathan Phillips https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-160 Sat, 26 Aug 2023 05:38:07 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-160 In reply to Claudia Wilkinson.

You might find these papers interesting:

The relationship between
Klebsiella infection and ankylosing spondylitis
A bringer. Baillieres Clin Rheumatol. 1989 Aug.

The Effect of Ketogenic Diet on Inflammatory Arthritis and Cardiovascular Health in Rheumatic Conditions: A Mini Review
Jacopo Ciaffi et al. Front Med (Lausanne). 2021.
Free PMC article

Gut Microbiome and Its Interaction with Immune System in Spondyloarthritis.
So J, et al. Microorganisms. 2020.
PMID: 33158167 Free PMC article. Review.

The cross-tolerance hypothesis,
HLA-B27 and ankylosing spondylitis.
Ebringer A. Br J Rheumatol. 1983.
PMID: 6418259 Review.

1gA antibodies against Klebsiella and other Gram-negative bacteria in ankylosing spondylitis and acute anterior uveitis.
Sprenkels SH, et al. Clin Rheumatol. 1996.
PMID: 8835503

The association of HLA-B27 and Klebsiella pneumonia in ankylosing spondylitis: A systematic review.
Zhang L, et al. Microb Pathog. 2018.
PMID: 29438717 Review.

The role of Klebsiella in the pathogenesis of ankylosing spondylitis. II Evidence for a specific B27-associated marker on the lymphocytes of patients with ankylosing spondylitis.
Geczy AF, et al. J Clin Lab Immunol. 1980.
PMID: 7381924

Molecular mimickry between HLA B27 and Yersinia, Salmonella, Shigella and Klebsiella within the same region of HLA alpha 1-helix.
Lahesmaa R, et al. Clin Exp Immunol. 1991.
PMID: 1747948 Free PMC article.

Role of the microbiome and its metabolites in ankylosing spondylitis.
Song ZY, et al. Front Immunol. 2022.
PMID: 36311749 Free PMC article. Review.

Reactive Arthritis Resulting From
Postoperative Complications of Third Molar Extraction: A Case Report.
Maytin L, et al. Cureus. 2022. PMID: 36158436
Free PMC article.

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By: Jonathan Phillips https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-159 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 12:46:05 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-159 In reply to Claudia Wilkinson.

You might look at my comment below listen to the Dr Myhill video she gives some insight.

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By: Jonathan Phillips https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-157 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:35:11 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-157 Ivor, Gabor. Have you come across Dr Sara Myhill? She has been at the sharp end, dealing with very ill patients and using the ketogenic diet, among other things, I think for 40 years, who knew.? she’s written many books and she loves the biochemistry.

I’ve linked a talk here that is very interesting. There are so many by her and she recently talked to Dr Tessa, Lawrie re long covid, vaccines ivermectin etc.

The reason I chose this video is because just for a moment around 30 minutes in she speaks about ankylosing spondylitis, which I think, without going back, is what Gabor suffers with? and she has this to say, this is from the transcript. It might whet your appetite.

“So many arthritides we now know
are driven by bacteria, in fact when i was at the middlesex hospital medical school in the 1970s we had a consultant there called Dr Alan Ebringer rheumatologist, he demonstrated that ankylosing spondylitis is driven by a microbe in the gut called klebsiella.

And if you are a particular tissue type, which is ‘hla b27’ positive, that to the immune system looks exactly like klebsiella, the bacterium make antibodies against klebsiella which cross react with ligaments in the spine and you get inflammation there.

And guess how Ebringer was treating his patients? With low carbohydrate ketogenic diets and curing their ankylosing spondylitis.”

https://youtu.be/IJg6byE36ok?si=OD6TdKqRJahVDO2y

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By: Claudia Wilkinson https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-156 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 08:14:16 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-156 Can I ask Gabor if he has any specific resources I could give to a friend I have in France who has Ankylosing Spondylitis.

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By: Jonathan Phillips https://metabolicduo.com/aug-24th-met-duo-the-easyway-to-health-and-weightloss-special-plus-qanda/#comment-155 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 07:04:40 +0000 https://metabolicduo.com/?p=233#comment-155 Thoughts on Dairy.

I love dairy ie cheese but it does seem to be addictive, obesogenic and causes phlegm.

The doctors that deal with really ill people, like Paleo Medicina, Dr Myhill say absolutely no dairy.

KenBerry no Dairy.

Then the seeming healthy carnivores Chaffee etc no dairy.

Thoughts?

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